On the seventh day, we SPAMMED

[Shoal]

*shakes fist a kappa* we would have won already if it weren't for your vig shot!

is there a point to continuing to talk in here or should we move scumchat to the public thread?

[jalapeno_dude]

No, let's keep talking here. It seems tidier to talk inside the temple even when everyone outside it is dead. :p

(Also I was totally going to name this thread SPAM for the Memories but you ninja'd me. Eh, I like your name better.)

[jalapeno_dude]

So, first off, as far as I am aware I am not possessed. (I did not get a PM from Alicorn or Nemo -- or modrony or anyone else, for that matter--and if there is a secret message embedded in Alicorn's post its meaning is escaping me.)

Also, it is beginning to seem much more likely to me that Kappa killed pistachi0n and wolffreak. (I still have no idea why he'd kill wolffreak).

Finally, I have *no clue* how we were supposed to figure out modrony was the demon. Either they didn't actually know, they kept their win condition while possessed, or they were incredibly good at subverting whatever behavior restrictions were imposed upon them by possession. I guess I should go back and look at modrony's posts the last two days, MTC's before that, and PDV's before that.

[Shoal]

well, obviously we control the lynch. whoever we want to lynch today will be lynched. we have paradox and michael left on the town side and the three of us left on the scum side and michael isn't playing. It is unfortunate that modrony died because I was really hoping they help us demon hunt today. I don't know if they would have been willing but maybe it would have helped -- if they hadn't been the demon themself anyway.

I think the previous demons' silence is a red herring -- modrony continued to be a townleader yesterday and correctly nailed the three of us as scum long before the obvious scramble at the end, even if modrony seemed to think my silence was alignment indicative when it was a co-incidence.

Paradox may still be busy with exams but I don't think he'll be the asset modrony would have been.

I think we need to maintain a majority over the townies so that they can't go back to winning against us but we also need to try to work out what the demon's win con might be like, what the jumping conditions might be like.

We should mop up the town first probably but we should spend the day hunting, maybe we'll spot something sooner. THE COIN has given us victory over the town, let us not throw that victory away with complacency.

preview-edit: yeah, I'm really impressed with how modrony played it yesterday. hats off to modrony. I don't know how BSS figured that out about MTC.

I also am not possessed and have received no PMs from anybody.

I think next game modrony goes back to getting nightkilled on day 1 for being too good at this and too scary to the scumteam. I also think the town should abolish lynching smart people early on.

[jalapeno_dude]

Shoal, PARADOX IS DEAD. :p

[Shoal]

wtf. why do i keep forgetting who is alive?

[Shoal]

so it's just michael then? and the three of us.

[Shoal]

ok. well i think we should spend the day talking to each other and then if we think one of us is the demon we should lynch them because michael isn't a threat and then if we're wrong then we can try again with the nightkill and again the next day with lynching. If we don't think any of us are the demon then we should lynch michael and get the game over with. But we should make use of the time we have with each other for figuring that out. We don't know how many shots we get so it's best to aim as wisely and informedly as we can.

[Tamien]

Dammit, I keep thinking we've won and then finding out we haven't. Screw this demon. I have absolutely no idea how to tell if anyone is possessed at this point, and no idea how to kill the demon for sure.

Okay, so if we lynch michaelblume and he's possessed, we're good. If we lynch him and he's not, then we have to nightkill one of our own. If we get that one wrong, then the next day everyone left dies and presumably the demon wins but maybe everyone just loses, who knows.

We could lynch one of us instead of him but that seems to just skip ahead to the problem of figuring out who. Plus our wincon is technically kill all infidels, and we have not technically done that even though we totally can at this point. It's probably the demon that has stopped the game from being called, but maybe not.

If jalapeno_dude is possessed, we're screwed, cause he's the one who assigns the nightkill. We would have to figure it out during the day somehow and lynch him. If shoal is possessed we can nightkill them and be okay. I'm not possessed as far as I can tell, but the same goes for me.

I don't know how we'd tell if any of us are possessed. This feels like a truck question designed to inspire paranoia.

Ugh, maybe I should have investigated someone last night. Maybe I would have gotten a demonic true name. I feel dumb for not; it wouldn't have hurt, certainly.

At this point I don't have enough information to figure out what I should do, and don't see how I could get that information. I'm kind feeling kappa's earlier despairing apathy. I donno, you guys. Am I missing something here?

[Shoal]

yeah, feeling like victory keeps being snatched from our grasps. well, it's michael or one of us is lying but we should kill michael for being an infidel too. i'm not thinking all that great (it's bedtime, head hurts), but I guess it's like we're in LYLO but with each other if it's not michael. gonna do some more rereading when i'm awake again. maybe we should interact with each other as if it's 3p lylo and try to come to some conclusion, then lynch michael, and if michael is the demon then we win, if not, then we haven't wasted 3 days, and all we have to go on is who seems to have a different agenda today than the rest of us, but that'd be easier if we knew specifically what the demon's best strategy would be so we could try to find a way out.

maybe math will help us figure out if it's better to (after lots of discussion and being as sure as we can be) lynch one of ourselves and then nightkill michael if we were wrong OR lynch michael and then nightkill one of ourselves (if we were wrong.)

I'm wondering if maybe pistachi0n targeted mekath that night. she should have said something but it did look like we were pretty sure to win soon, possibly the next day because we would have outnumbered the townies with her alive. we could have got more towncred by mislxynching her though and i do think she would have discussed it with us.