"Clever Ways To Circumvent Fairies" thread.

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Re: "Clever Ways To Circumvent Fairies" thread.

Postby Alicorn » Tue Dec 29, 2015 9:43 pm

An entire name, even if it is too short to count as part of a longer name, always counts.
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Re: "Clever Ways To Circumvent Fairies" thread.

Postby Kappa » Tue Dec 29, 2015 9:55 pm

Ooh, that gives me a great idea: initially-name babies with sounds that draw from sources other than the actual phonemes of your native language. Like, I just totally pronounced the name [sharp exhale between teeth][chirp] out loud, it has things resembling consonants and vowels in it, but you could stand around all day guessing every conceivable combination of valid English noises and not come up with it. Harder to write it down and keep a copy, admittedly.

Regarding entire names: so if you name someone, say, Iuuaiaeie, which has no consonants, will any subsequence of multiple vowels count or would someone have to come up with the whole string correctly?
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Re: "Clever Ways To Circumvent Fairies" thread.

Postby Alicorn » Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:40 pm

Any sequence of multiple vowels will count.
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Re: "Clever Ways To Circumvent Fairies" thread.

Postby ErinFlight » Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:01 pm

What about a culture that doesn't primarily use spoken language?
Would a sign language name let a faerie control you?

Also, the Bartimeaus universe could be interesting here.
Magicians are not told their birth names, since it would give demons power over them.
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Re: "Clever Ways To Circumvent Fairies" thread.

Postby Alicorn » Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:40 pm

If the fairy learns the name, it still counts - if Celo tells his name to a fairy he's got, the fairy just can't pronounce it. Similar for name signs except the fairy *can* pronounce it.
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Re: "Clever Ways To Circumvent Fairies" thread.

Postby Ezra » Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:52 pm

Can't pronounce is a partial defense, in that they can't then share your name?
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Re: "Clever Ways To Circumvent Fairies" thread.

Postby MaggieoftheOwls » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:10 am

If you manage to give someone a name that literally harms someone to hear it, would that mean that someone literally couldn't give a master who had food-trapped them or whatnot their name?
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Re: "Clever Ways To Circumvent Fairies" thread.

Postby Kappa » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:15 am

Ooh. Nice one, Maggie. I can even think of some notions that might potentially qualify.

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Re: "Clever Ways To Circumvent Fairies" thread.

Postby Alicorn » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:16 am

They can't directly share your name; they can make you say it, if you can pronounce it.

Maggie: that is super smart and would totally work as far as it goes. If your name is from that one Monty Python sketch or something, your food!master will have to make you tell a third party and the third party will have to tell your master if they don't want to go without altogether.
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Re: "Clever Ways To Circumvent Fairies" thread.

Postby Kappa » Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:50 am

What if someone has a name that they themselves can't pronounce? Like the nymph deal but without the convenient ability to share it? I guess in a nymph's case the sensory impression is usually theoretically achievable by standing around in their field waiting for the right meteorological conditions...
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