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Alicornutopia • View topic - What would you do with the Silmaril peal's resources?

What would you do with the Silmaril peal's resources?

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Re: What would you do with the Silmaril peal's resources?

Postby Transreal Clouden » Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:50 am

Aggressively experiment with Deavification. They now have the ability to resurrect the dead through other means so just try killing people willing to be deava and see if it works. With their consent of course. I'd also look into what criminal justice systems exist in the Deava realms with an eye towards figuring out how to manage a society where Deava are not constrained to only appear in other worlds when summoned.
Try to work with Boots + Loki + Elspeth + Gem to make the sorcerous alphabet comprehensible to people other than Loki. I keep thinking back to the tesseract saying that with enough work Sorcery can do everything it can do and having that sort of power available but not limited to Edda would be excellent.
Use Sibyl to experiment more liberally with Gem's wish granter. It has the potential to offer some pretty fantastic powers and some of those would be exceptionally useful.
Use Wished powers to make a safe world to experiment with Eclipses in Patalon.
This is already happening but focus on recreating the rings of power from Millennium.
Test whether a wish can raise a Spellbinder's cap.
Experiment more with the Silmarils, especially Ithil's set to see if that gives a more reliable way to combat Valar. This is especially important now that we have proof of concept from Beka's Arda.
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Re: What would you do with the Silmaril peal's resources?

Postby Transreal Clouden » Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:23 am

Timepoof and I were discussing this earlier in chat. At their request I've posted the transcript of our conversation in a spoilerbox below.

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Re: What would you do with the Silmaril peal's resources?

Postby DanielH » Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:09 pm

Many of the issues discussed here are true in Effulgence too, they’re just called out in Silmaril because the peal acknowledges and tries to address them.
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Re: What would you do with the Silmaril peal's resources?

Postby anthusiasm » Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:04 am

I've seen a couple people say they would harness the power of narrativium, and I'm curious what that would look like in practice, especially since glowfic narratives are so nonstandard.

Personally I would try to find a romantic partner who would provide enough interpersonal drama that the authors don't feel like they need to drop a Yeerk invasion on us to make things interesting. Glowfic Girlfriend would have some combination of the following traits:

--she inspires ~passion~ but is incompatible enough with me that it doesn't take much to start drama (the authors could get an entire thread out of me forgetting to take the garbage out again)
--she has a multi-part tragic backstory that surfaces at narratively interesting moments, and is sufficiently stubborn/reticent/anti-magic that I can't just solve it with my considerable resources
--she has some kind of built-in interesting narrative arc, like "arch-nemesis who I have to lure to the side of good with my sexy"
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Re: What would you do with the Silmaril peal's resources?

Postby pedromvilar » Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:10 am

I'm pretty sure at least the two things are narratively uninsteresting to many glowfic authors and specifically Alicorn and lintamande so I'm not sure you'd have much success there. And in general, any troubles that result from misaligned expectations or miscommunication or holding the idiot ball are mostly absent so relying on that is more a guarantee that you won't show up in glowfic than that you'll avoid Yeerk problems.
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Re: What would you do with the Silmaril peal's resources?

Postby Unbitwise » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:03 am

Miscommunication, no. Lack of communication (and keeping secrets), yes.
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Re: What would you do with the Silmaril peal's resources?

Postby lintamande » Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:36 am

Fëanorians all pretty much decline to have a high-friction relationship because they value personal loyalty really highly and handle conflict terribly. The ones who are willing to sleep around will have high-friction /hookups/ but not invest in them emotionally; Maitimos will put up with it to get something they really want and Caranthirs if his other desiderata are very very present (but, like, that gets you 'has tantrums and pays boyfriend for the inconvenience'). I don't think they have enough information to make inferences about when we throw Yeerks at them, either. The evidence of narrativium they have is mostly the existence of attractors (for Bells to drop on Ardas, for bad things to happen to certain templates, for worlds to be found at a certain point in their arcs), which seem really hard to weaponize. They should probably compare rates of extinction events and major recent disasters in Warp/Edda worlds with no selection effect against the rates in found worlds, figure out whether their finding process runs on narrativium, but even once they have graphs to prove it does, that's hard to use.
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Re: What would you do with the Silmaril peal's resources?

Postby DanielH » Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:55 pm

No relationship stress? Tell that to Timothy and Midnight.
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Re: What would you do with the Silmaril peal's resources?

Postby quark » Mon Apr 03, 2017 5:29 pm

well, even they don't have relationship stress as like, a continuous feature of their relationship with their Fingons? Midnight rather, um, mind-controlled his way out of that one, and I've only skimmed the latest thread so far but it's definitely debatable how well Timothy is handling this current crisis.
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Re: What would you do with the Silmaril peal's resources?

Postby DanielH » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:18 pm

Midnight has no romantic relationship at all right now, but he works on Elf timescales so he might see things differently.
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