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Re: What's your favorite glowfic?

PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 6:49 pm
by Kappa
Well, depending on what your protagonists are like...

Re: What's your favorite glowfic?

PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:11 pm
by Antares
So, a Miles landing somewhere where there is a delicate balance and being impulsive?

Re: What's your favorite glowfic?

PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:22 pm
by Kappa
...maybe you have a different definition of antagonists than I do?

Re: What's your favorite glowfic?

PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 10:23 pm
by Antares
No, just really have trouble imagining a Miles in an antagonistic role.

Re: What's your favorite glowfic?

PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 5:26 am
by Kappa
In the sense in which I was using the terms, protagonist and antagonist are about someone's position relative to the narrative. Like -

You have viewpoint character, the person/people whose eyes you are seeing the story through;

you have hero vs villain, 'person trying to make things better' vs 'person trying to make things worse' with varying degrees of intentionality and self-awareness on either side;

and you have protagonist vs antagonist, 'the person/people occupying the central role(s) in the story, who we are maybe supposed to be rooting for, maybe supposed to be throwing popcorn at' vs 'the person/people opposing the protagonist, getting less screentime and being less directly observed by the narrative viewpoint'. (In glowfic, viewpoint and protagonist almost always go hand in hand, because of how characters work; and I think hero and protagonist have also almost always gone hand in hand, but they don't have to.)

Mileses are very much 'central role in the story' people. Libbies are very much 'opposing the central role' people.

It would be almost impossible to write a Miles as a villain because their goals are pretty strongly non-villainous and they are by nature very good at accomplishing their goals. You could maybe get as far as having one screw up pretty badly, they do do that on occasion, but then they'd want to fix it, they would not at all cooperate with being shoved into the villain role.

Re: What's your favorite glowfic?

PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 7:13 pm
by Antares
It might be interesting to see Miles through the POV of someone else. Especially an Inspector Javert type. One of Miles greatest assets is his ability to charm, inspire and redeem people. I wonder how Miles would fare against that Circling Police Chou woman.

Re: What's your favorite glowfic?

PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 8:24 pm
by Nemo
Render her irrelevant by looking up the GCP's wanted lists and summoning a demon, then completing thousands of circles per daeva himself so all new suspects come to him instead? "Hi, this is Cam, I heard he was wanted for questioning? There was some oversight where he wouldn't have been able to answer, but don't worry, I fixed that."

Re: What's your favorite glowfic?

PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 8:51 pm
by Kappa
That is the right genre of thing, yes. XDDDDDDD

Re: What's your favorite glowfic?

PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 8:56 pm
by Antares
Hahahahaha! Chua would have a stroke!

Re: What's your favorite glowfic?

PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2017 4:23 am
by DanielH
And hence if you were writing a story with Chua as the protagonist (which you could easily do, because she sees herself as protecting people and in fact does so in many, probably most, cases), Miles would be an antagonist.