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Cooperative Zendo

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 8:17 pm
by pedromvilar
As discussed here, let's try doing collaborative Zendo.

Rules
  • A rule about strings of characters is picked by the Master;
  • The rule is encrypted and posted at the start of the game, as well as an acceptable format for strings;
  • People may post strings of characters as often as they like, and the Master will mark them as obeying the rule or not;
  • People should have no more than 10 unanswered Koans at a time, to avoid cluttering everything and annoying everyone;
  • At any point, anyone who doesn't have an as of then unanswered guess may post one;
  • When someone guesses incorrectly, the Master must prove the guess is incorrect; when the guess is correct, the game ends.

The acceptable format for Koans is strings of (English) letters of any length.

The encrypted rule is: Vzhlla liwicfqag ty ahm dmympu uhse nfctp tlmqi.

'bbc' obeys the rule.
'bee' does not.

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Current ongoing game starts here.

Re: Cooperative Zendo: First Attempt

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 8:21 pm
by Kappa
'aac' ?
'ccb' ?
'baa' ?
'ebb' ?

Re: Cooperative Zendo: First Attempt

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 8:30 pm
by pedromvilar
No, yes, no, no.

Koans
Yes
bbc
ccb

No
bee
aac
baa
ebb

Re: Cooperative Zendo: First Attempt

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 8:31 pm
by jalapeno_dude
'BBC'?
'Bbc'?
'b'?
'bbcc'?

(Also, doesn't 'cooperative' imply that we should be sharing our conclusions/what we're trying to achieve with each guess? Or are we *only* allowed to post guesses and not allowed to say anything else? )

Re: Cooperative Zendo: First Attempt

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 8:32 pm
by pedromvilar
Yes to all.

And yeah, feel free to discuss stuff here or explain reasonings and stuff if you like I think? Unless other people object?

Koans
Yes
bbc
ccb
BBC
Bbc
b
bbcc

No
bee
aac
baa
ebb

Re: Cooperative Zendo: First Attempt

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 8:35 pm
by jalapeno_dude
''?

Re: Cooperative Zendo: First Attempt

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 8:36 pm
by Kappa
'abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz' ?
'123456789' ?

... It's not "must not contain a vowel", is it?

Re: Cooperative Zendo: First Attempt

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 8:39 pm
by pedromvilar
Empty string is a yes, whole alphabet is yes, string of numbers isn't an acceptable Koan for this rule (only strings of letters), and the alphabet being a yes is a counterexample to the rule "must not contain a vowel."

Koans
Yes
bbc
ccb
BBC
Bbc
b
bbcc
{empty string}
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz

No
bee
aac
baa
ebb

Re: Cooperative Zendo: First Attempt

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 8:48 pm
by jalapeno_dude
My guess is "any string of letters except for ['bee','aac','baa','ebb']."

(I don't expect this is correct but am interested in how it will be proved to be incorrect.)

Re: Cooperative Zendo: First Attempt

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 8:52 pm
by Kappa
Huh, didn't catch the acceptable format being a thing that existed.

'ooaa' ?
'aeiou' ?
'aeiouy' ?
'ae' ?