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Re: Cooperative Zendo

Postby DanielH » Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:49 pm

All no (100 repeated)

Information
Initial post: http://alicorn.elcenia.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=28366#p28366
SHA-1: 074b5f19b6226a5ef8e524985218f102e41fc5f5

Yes:
(the empty string)
0
02
07
1
10
2
22
4
5
6
7
8
9
98521
a
b
c
e
e4
f
f1
f5
f8
fc

No:
00
000
001
00100
01
010
03
04
05
06
08
09
0a
0b
0c
0d
0e
0f
100
1000
10000
11
111
20
3
30
33
40
44
48
4c
50
55
60
61
63
64
65
66
6e
70
72
77
78
80
8badf00d
90
900dd09
9851d
9851e
9851f
98520
98522
98523
98524
a0
aa
abba
b0
b4
bb
c0
c007d00d
c4
cafebabe
cc
d
d0
d15ea5e
d1efa57
d4
dd
deadbeef
decade
decaf
e0
ee
f0
f1d0
f2
f3
f4
f6
f7
f9
fa
faceb00c
fb
fd
fe
ff
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Re: Cooperative Zendo

Postby Lambda » Wed Oct 19, 2016 7:18 pm

002
022
222
003
033
333
007
077
777
770
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Re: Cooperative Zendo

Postby DanielH » Wed Oct 19, 2016 7:55 pm

All no

Hint: The chances of a random 3-character string being accepted are just shy of 1%.

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than
Initial post: http://alicorn.elcenia.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=28366#p28366
SHA-1: 074b5f19b6226a5ef8e524985218f102e41fc5f5

Yes:
(the empty string)
0
02
07
1
10
2
22
4
5
6
7
8
9
98521
a
b
c
e
e4
f
f1
f5
f8
fc

No:
00
000
001
00100
002
003
007
01
010
022
03
033
04
05
06
077
08
09
0a
0b
0c
0d
0e
0f
100
1000
10000
11
111
20
222
3
30
33
333
40
44
48
4c
50
55
60
61
63
64
65
66
6e
70
72
77
770
777
78
80
8badf00d
90
900dd09
9851d
9851e
9851f
98520
98522
98523
98524
a0
aa
abba
b0
b4
bb
c0
c007d00d
c4
cafebabe
cc
d
d0
d15ea5e
d1efa57
d4
dd
deadbeef
decade
decaf
e0
ee
f0
f1d0
f2
f3
f4
f6
f7
f9
fa
faceb00c
fb
fd
fe
ff
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Re: Cooperative Zendo

Postby Lambda » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:34 pm

98532
87521
87532
97531
a9510
feb87
fe821
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Re: Cooperative Zendo

Postby DanielH » Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:01 pm

All no

Starting in 24 hours, unless somebody objects, if somebody guesses a rule and there is a yes counterexample, I’ll give that in preference to no counterexamples; that is, I will confirm superset rules as such. Alternately, I can give another free yes which I expect will help.

Information
Initial post: http://alicorn.elcenia.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=28366#p28366
SHA-1: 074b5f19b6226a5ef8e524985218f102e41fc5f5

Yes:
(the empty string)
0
02
07
1
10
2
22
4
5
6
7
8
9
98521
a
b
c
e
e4
f
f1
f5
f8
fc

No:
00
000
001
00100
002
003
007
01
010
022
03
033
04
05
06
077
08
09
0a
0b
0c
0d
0e
0f
100
1000
10000
11
111
20
222
3
30
33
333
40
44
48
4c
50
55
60
61
63
64
65
66
6e
70
72
77
770
777
78
80
87521
87532
8badf00d
90
900dd09
97531
9851d
9851e
9851f
98520
98522
98523
98524
98532
a0
a9510
aa
abba
b0
b4
bb
c0
c007d00d
c4
cafebabe
cc
d
d0
d15ea5e
d1efa57
d4
dd
deadbeef
decade
decaf
e0
ee
f0
f1d0
f2
f3
f4
f6
f7
f9
fa
faceb00c
fb
fd
fe
fe821
feb87
ff
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Re: Cooperative Zendo

Postby DanielH » Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:20 pm

Nobody has responded to either proposal, so I’ll give the other string and do the superset confirmation if somebody asks me to.

Yes: 8521

Information
Initial post: http://alicorn.elcenia.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=28366#p28366
SHA-1: 074b5f19b6226a5ef8e524985218f102e41fc5f5

Yes:
(the empty string)
0
02
07
1
10
2
22
4
5
6
7
8
8521
9
98521
a
b
c
e
e4
f
f1
f5
f8
fc

No:
00
000
001
00100
002
003
007
01
010
022
03
033
04
05
06
077
08
09
0a
0b
0c
0d
0e
0f
100
1000
10000
11
111
20
222
3
30
33
333
40
44
48
4c
50
55
60
61
63
64
65
66
6e
70
72
77
770
777
78
80
87521
87532
8badf00d
90
900dd09
97531
9851d
9851e
9851f
98520
98522
98523
98524
98532
a0
a9510
aa
abba
b0
b4
bb
c0
c007d00d
c4
cafebabe
cc
d
d0
d15ea5e
d1efa57
d4
dd
deadbeef
decade
decaf
e0
ee
f0
f1d0
f2
f3
f4
f6
f7
f9
fa
faceb00c
fb
fd
fe
fe821
feb87
ff
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Re: Cooperative Zendo

Postby Unbitwise » Fri Oct 21, 2016 9:30 pm

Guess: Substrings of ab6221020798521f1f5f8fce4
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Re: Cooperative Zendo

Postby DanielH » Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:21 pm

That is incorrect. Did you want me to give a superset confirmation or rebuttal if applicable?

Since you did not ask for that I will not give it. Instead I will point out that 20 is a substring of ab6221020798521f1f5f8fce4 but is on the no list.

How did you come up with this guess, out of curiosity?
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Re: Cooperative Zendo

Postby Unbitwise » Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:38 pm

DanielH wrote:Did you want me to give a superset confirmation or rebuttal if applicable?

Yes.

DanielH wrote:How did you come up with this guess, out of curiosity?

I smashed together everything on the yes list.

102
198521
298521
398521
498521
598521
698521
798521
898521
998521
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Re: Cooperative Zendo

Postby DanielH » Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:56 pm

In that case I will add a yes counterexample to it, generated randomly:

Yes: 5ef8

I am not basing this off a random secret hexadecimal string.


And for your guesses:

Yes: 102, 498521
No: 198521, 298521, 398521, 598521, 698521, 798521, 898521, 998521

Information
Initial post: http://alicorn.elcenia.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=28366#p28366
SHA-1: 074b5f19b6226a5ef8e524985218f102e41fc5f5

Yes:
(the empty string)
0
02
07
1
10
102
2
22
4
498521
5
5ef8
6
7
8
8521
9
98521
a
b
c
e
e4
f
f1
f5
f8
fc

No:
00
000
001
00100
002
003
007
01
010
022
03
033
04
05
06
077
08
09
0a
0b
0c
0d
0e
0f
100
1000
10000
11
111
198521
20
222
298521
3
30
33
333
398521
40
44
48
4c
50
55
598521
60
61
63
64
65
66
698521
6e
70
72
77
770
777
78
798521
80
87521
87532
898521
8badf00d
90
900dd09
97531
9851d
9851e
9851f
98520
98522
98523
98524
98532
998521
a0
a9510
aa
abba
b0
b4
bb
c0
c007d00d
c4
cafebabe
cc
d
d0
d15ea5e
d1efa57
d4
dd
deadbeef
decade
decaf
e0
ee
f0
f1d0
f2
f3
f4
f6
f7
f9
fa
faceb00c
fb
fd
fe
fe821
feb87
ff
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