Cooperative Zendo

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Re: Cooperative Zendo: First Attempt

Postby pedromvilar » Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:28 am

Yes, I edited the post to clarify that.
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Re: Cooperative Zendo

Postby pedromvilar » Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:42 am

I like being the Master so I'll do it again and link to this post (and if anyone else wants to we can run more than one game here, or run more games in other threads). This time I'm hashing using SHA1 as per http://www.sha1-online.com/.

The acceptable format for Koans is strings of Roman alphabet letters (disregarding accents) and numbers.

The hash of the rule is: 65d628ed70ecb5044091a435e47531b718adec22

'bbc' obeys the rule
'bee' does not

This is a very complex rule and I expect it might take days for people to solve it.
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Re: Cooperative Zendo

Postby Throne3d » Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:46 am

old trials that I am actually not submitting
See the edit – these are not being submitted.
The letters of the alphabet ('a' through 'z', that is), one letter per string. ('a', 'b', …)
(And uppercase equivalents?)

abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
1234567890
0123456789
9876543210
0987654321
987654321

1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
0

Yes, I am just trying a bunch of the easy ones from last time.
Edit: I feel mean posting such a large list, and MTC has suggested we have a limit for the number of koans you can test at once. So. Maybe we should come up with one of those.

Edit2: People seem to (in the IRC) want to settle on 5 or 10 at a time per person? So I'll instead change what I'm testing to these five:
'0'
'1'
'2'
'3'
'4'
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Re: Cooperative Zendo

Postby pedromvilar » Tue Aug 16, 2016 10:01 am

Throne3d wrote:
old trials that I am actually not submitting
See the edit – these are not being submitted.
The letters of the alphabet ('a' through 'z', that is), one letter per string. ('a', 'b', …)
(And uppercase equivalents?)

abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
1234567890
0123456789
9876543210
0987654321
987654321

1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
0

Yes, I am just trying a bunch of the easy ones from last time.
Edit: I feel mean posting such a large list, and MTC has suggested we have a limit for the number of koans you can test at once. So. Maybe we should come up with one of those.

Edit2: People seem to (in the IRC) want to settle on 5 or 10 at a time per person? So I'll instead change what I'm testing to these five:
'0'
'1'
'2'
'3'
'4'


No, no, yes, yes, no

And yeah that seemed like a reasonable rule, I think limiting the number of unanswered Koans per person to 10 is a good and added that to the rules at the top.

Information
Acceptable Format
Strings of Roman alphabet letters (disregarding accents) and numbers.

Rule Hash
65d628ed70ecb5044091a435e47531b718adec22

Yes
bbc
2
3

No
bee
0
1
4
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Re: Cooperative Zendo

Postby Throne3d » Tue Aug 16, 2016 10:02 am

'5'
'6'
'7'
'8'
'9'
'a'
'b'
'c'
'd'
'e'

Edit: 'e' instead of '0' <_<
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Re: Cooperative Zendo

Postby pedromvilar » Tue Aug 16, 2016 10:08 am

Throne3d wrote:'5'
'6'
'7'
'8'
'9'
'a'
'b'
'c'
'd'
'e'


Yes, no, yes, no, no, no, yes, yes, no, yes

I am revising my estimate of the difficulty of this rule down, significantly.

Information
Acceptable Format
Strings of Roman alphabet letters (disregarding accents) and numbers.

Rule Hash
65d628ed70ecb5044091a435e47531b718adec22

Yes
bbc
2
3
5
7
b
c
e

No
bee
0
1
4
6
8
9
a
d
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Re: Cooperative Zendo

Postby MTC » Tue Aug 16, 2016 10:09 am

02
03
04
13
15
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
A
BBC
BEE
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Re: Cooperative Zendo

Postby Throne3d » Tue Aug 16, 2016 10:12 am

I feel like I have to do math now. The fact the numbers went 'no, no, yes, yes, no, yes, no, yes, no, no' (0 through 9) seems – curious somehow? Maybe? I'm guessing it's something like ASCII or an ordinal representation of each number, then you're, I dunno, adding together and seeing if it's a multiple of two? Except not two, because it looks like something like maybe-fizzbuzz. (This isn't an actual guess, just my thoughts for other people.)

'00'
'01'
'05'
'10'
'11'
'20'
'21'
'30'
'40'
'50'
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Re: Cooperative Zendo

Postby DanielH » Tue Aug 16, 2016 10:15 am

'bb'
'b'
'be'

'BBC'
'BEE'

'11'
'13'
'17'

'10'
'12'
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Re: Cooperative Zendo

Postby DanielH » Tue Aug 16, 2016 10:18 am

Throne: for single digits the rule is identical to primes. No clue how that extends to the alphabet yet.
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