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Re: Kaylin's Creations

Postby Kaylin » Sun Aug 27, 2017 2:42 pm

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[10:26 PM] Kaylin: Leos believe whoever said that people start out good and evil is a result of their circumstances. Michaels believe most people are bastards and when someone does something nice it's (a) because they want something, (b) because they like you personally, or (c) because it'll make them look good
[10:34 PM] Kaylin: bear in mind Michaels also tend to have low standards for "nice"
[10:36 PM] Kaylin: as in, they believe the basic fabric of civilization is built on (a) mutual gains, (b) biology making it harder to stab someone if they're your friend, and (c) social inertia
[10:36 PM] Kaylin: and that secretly no-one gives a fuck
[10:37 PM] Kaylin: Cats have a template attractor for coming up against "no-one would know" scenarios, the "who are you when nobody's watching" question
[10:38 PM] Kaylin: and Michaels expect other people in that scenario to be selfish bastards
[10:38 PM] Kaylin: Leos expect better of themselves and carry themselves as though they expect better of those around them, and can usually pull it off with enough charisma that they convince people to go along with their plan
[10:39 PM] Kaylin: A Leo's answer to the question "Who would know?" is "You would."
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Re: Kaylin's Creations

Postby Kaylin » Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:03 am

I was thinking about the variance within templates, for no particular reason, so here are some rankings of the Raven template on various scales.

Worst Liar: Calimante (Forest Arda), then Rowan (Steerswoman) followed by Ralani (Nuime). Rowan literally never lies, so has had zero practice with it, and even avoids misleading truths. Ralani has a soul which disapproves of her giving people false information, but is fine with her being evasive and refusing to answer questions, and concealing information about her private life. Calimante, on the other hand, is gonna take a few millennia to even comprehend the concept of lying.

Best Liar: Iskra (Envision), followed by Artemis (Young Justice), then Raven (Quintessence). Iskra is lying to everyone she knows, including dodging irregular mental checks by her oppressive government, which means she has to be able to lie even in her own head. Quintessence Raven is a spy, but doesn't often do the kind of work that would require her to lie to people. She makes it onto this list because she's been explicitly trained in how to lie. Artemis has a secret identity, which means she has to conceal part of her life from almost everyone she knows - either her civilian identity or her superhero one. The one person she can talk to about both is her mom.

Worst Social Skills: Raza (Elcenia) followed by...probably Iolana (Corth), then the undifferentiated middle. Raza was raised in a shren house and is Bad at interacting with non-shrens. She leans heavily on her brother for social stuff. Iolana makes the list mostly because she's younger-equivalent than the average Raven with a Cat for a sibling, and has therefore had less practice.

Best Social Skills: Ranata (Arabek). Next is...probably Raziel (Daevinity)? Ranata has been explicitly taught How To Social by a god of teaching, which is one of the only ways, other than literal decades of practice, that Ravens can learn how to be good at social. Raziel has had literal centuries of practice.

Any suggestions for more ways I could rank characters, or other templates I should do this for?
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Re: Kaylin's Creations

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Re: Kaylin's Creations

Postby Kaylin » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:45 am

A selection of Raven rankings based on suggestions in that thread:

Hair Length
Longest: Isabella (Quintessence), Ranata, Raza
Shortest: Isana (Badlands), Roshan (Space Albion), Susan (Potterverse)
Variable: Raziel
Disqualified for not having hair: Everless, Calimantë, Talurtanon (Kelovea)

Reactions to finding out they're fictional
Worst reaction: Iskra, no question
Isabella
Artemis
Raza
Rowan (Animorphs)
Rowena (Buffyverse)
Isana
(middle of the pack)
Iolana
Susan
Talurtanon
Raziel
Everless
Best reaction: Calimantë

Promiscuity: I'm getting "error does not compute" from...most of them. Possible exception: Suka (9-genders-setting).

Amount of provocation necessary to kill someone
Most trigger-happy to least:
Artemis
Isana
Morfydd
Isabella
Iskra
Talurtanon
Everless
Steerswoman Rowan
Susan
Ralani
Iolana
Raza
Raziel
Roshan
(middle of the pack)
Calimantë

...so what we have learned is that Ravens start off at a baseline of pretty unlikely to kill people (the middle of the pack is mostly modern-Earth Ravens) but if they grow up in a more dangerous society can be pretty easily swung towards a greater willingness to kill.

Rankings for Cats on various scales are available upon request.
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Re: Kaylin's Creations

Postby Kaylin » Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:24 am

This was going to be a list of "things for which I will not get interesting results" but then I noticed Ravens actually do have different levels of introversion/extroversion. Somewhat.

From most to least introverted, bearing in mind that this is a fairly narrow distribution and even the ones at the bottom of the list are still introverts:
Raziel
Talurtanon
Everless
Isana
Raza
Iskra
Iolana
Susan
Artemis
(middle of the pack)
Ralani?
Ranata
Calimantë

...I think this turned into something of a measure of "how much do they like people" in some parts. Ranata and Ralani definitely score as high on extroversion as they do because their experience of people in general is unusually good, and one of the things pushing Raza more introverted than average for a Raven-with-a-Cat is bad experiences and low expectations.
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Re: Kaylin's Creations

Postby Kaylin » Sun Sep 24, 2017 4:54 am

Cats by hair length, longest to shortest:
Miro (Envision)
M'kel (Young Justice) pre-timeskip
Leah (Slayer Cat)
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(hypothetical green!Amentan Cat)
Muranu (Space Albion)
Liqan (9-genders-setting)
new unnamed Cat (Kelovea)
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Leodegrance (Albion)
Leander (Young Justice AU)
M'kel post-timeskip
unnamed [reject-your-reality] (Amenta)
(everyone else, mostly amab Cats from various Earths)
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